# Run Pmm on VM WITHROUT DOCKER

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**Created:** [April 21, 2025, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/run-pmm-on-vm-withrout-docker/37673 "2025-04-21T06:34:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![nekki\_r.kamalov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@nekki\_r.kamalov](https://forums.percona.com/u/nekki_r.kamalov)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:34am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/run-pmm-on-vm-withrout-docker/37673/1 "2025-04-21T06:34:58Z")

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Hi!  
I’ve checked this manual [Install PMM Server with Docker container - Percona Monitoring and Management](https://docs.percona.com/percona-monitoring-and-management/3/install-pmm/install-pmm-server/deployment-options/docker/index.html)

All the option includes Docker.  
I want to install Pmm-server on VM directly.  
Without any container mechanisms.

This option [Download and verify OVA file - Percona Monitoring and Management](https://docs.percona.com/percona-monitoring-and-management/3/install-pmm/install-pmm-server/deployment-options/virtual/download_ova.html)  
Is fake or misleading.  
This is docker installed inside VM.

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**Author:** ![Vadim\_Yalovets](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/vadim_yalovets/32/43_2.png) [@Vadim\_Yalovets](https://forums.percona.com/u/Vadim_Yalovets)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/run-pmm-on-vm-withrout-docker/37673/2 "2025-04-21T06:50:50Z")

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Hi Nekki,

It’s not supported installations that do not use Docker.

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**Author:** ![nekki\_r.kamalov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@nekki\_r.kamalov](https://forums.percona.com/u/nekki_r.kamalov)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 6:53am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/run-pmm-on-vm-withrout-docker/37673/3 "2025-04-21T06:53:09Z")

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> [@nekki\_r.kamalov](#):
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> This option [Download and verify OVA file - Percona Monitoring and Management](https://docs.percona.com/percona-monitoring-and-management/3/install-pmm/install-pmm-server/deployment-options/virtual/download_ova.html)

This option [Download and verify OVA file - Percona Monitoring and Management](https://docs.percona.com/percona-monitoring-and-management/3/install-pmm/install-pmm-server/deployment-options/virtual/download_ova.html)  
Then remove this manual.

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**Author:** ![nurlan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/nurlan/32/1523_2.png) [@nurlan](https://forums.percona.com/u/nurlan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 11:33am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/run-pmm-on-vm-withrout-docker/37673/4 "2025-04-21T11:33:08Z")

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It’s a podman installed in VM and it’s not fake as we provide VM distribution with PMM in it.  
The reason why we implemented it this way was to provide ability to have the same experience within multiple platforms and have stable upgrades as the previous approach lead to multiple failures during UI upgrade.