# Need clarity in PMM 2 system usage requirements

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**Category:** PMM 2.x\
**Created:** [August 5, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/need-clarity-in-pmm-2-system-usage-requirements/24232 "2023-08-05T11:25:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![pravata\_dash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/pravata_dash/32/12098_2.png) [@pravata\_dash](https://forums.percona.com/u/pravata_dash)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/need-clarity-in-pmm-2-system-usage-requirements/24232/1 "2023-08-05T11:25:18Z")

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We have a requirement to add approximately 300+ MySQL nodes to a PMM server for monitoring purposes. While reviewing the FAQ link provided below, I found some details that require clarification:

## What are the minimum system requirements?[¶](https://docs.percona.com/percona-monitoring-and-management/faq.html#what-are-the-minimum-system-requirements)

- Server:
  - Disk: 1 GB per monitored database (1 week data retention)
  - Memory: 2 GB per monitored database
  - CPU: Supports [`SSE4.2`](https://wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE4#SSE4.2)

- Client:
  - Disk: 100 MB

Question 1: Regarding “Memory: 2 GB per monitored database,” does this mean we need 2GB for each individual MySQL instance to be monitored? For example, for 100 MySQL nodes, would we need 200GB of memory? Is this not a significant amount?

Question 2: As mentioned earlier, could you please provide assistance in determining the total resources required (CPU, memory, disk, etc.) to monitor approximately 300+ MySQL nodes while retaining the data for a month(including QAN data as well)?

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**Author:** ![kedarpercona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/kedarpercona/32/809_2.png) [@kedarpercona](https://forums.percona.com/u/kedarpercona)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 12:25pm UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/need-clarity-in-pmm-2-system-usage-requirements/24232/2 "2023-08-05T12:25:41Z")

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Hello @pravata_dash,

I am going to summarize the response for both questions below.  
About minimum requirements documentation says:

> **Memory**  
> A minimum of 2 GB per monitored database node. **The increase in memory usage is not proportional to the number of nodes.** For example, data from 20 nodes should be easily handled with 16 GB.

Note that there it says it is not proportional to number of nodes and hints another estimate of 16G/20 nodes. This way you would be able to monitor 100 instances with 80G.

Review following posts and responses:

> [@PMM requirements for large setup](https://forums.percona.com/t/pmm-requirements-for-large-setup/6543):
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> Hello, We are investigating PMM as a monitoring system for a large installation (~500+ servers in each DC). And I wanted to ask, is it possible to handle such a big setup on a single PMM server and what capacity (CPU, MEM, HDD) it will require? Maybe you have already some experience with large setups and can point on problems and tuning solutions for them. Thanks, Max

> [@Understanding the PMM Server requirements(CPU and RAM or if any)](https://forums.percona.com/t/understanding-the-pmm-server-requirements-cpu-and-ram-or-if-any/13770):
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> Hi Team, Can you please help me the system requirements for the below? We need table stats and Query analytics stats as well. pmm-admin add mysql --server-insecure-tls --username=‘mon’ --password=‘XXXXX’ --host=‘prod401’ --port=3111 --service-name=Prod --disable-tablestats-limit=5000 --query-source=slowlog --size-slow-logs=1GiB I am using all the above options for all the 30 servers. so please suggest me accrodingly. Total production DB servers: 30 Please give me the below details? RAM: …

Also we have an old blog but it should surely give you a good enough understanding to estimate:

> **[How much disk space should I allocate for Percona Monitoring and Management?](https://www.percona.com/blog/how-much-disk-space-should-i-allocate-for-percona-monitoring-and-management/)**
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> I heard a frequent question at last week's Percona Live conference regarding Percona Monitoring and Management (PMM): How much disk space should I allocate for PMM Server?

Thanks,  
K

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**Author:** ![pravata\_dash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/pravata_dash/32/12098_2.png) [@pravata\_dash](https://forums.percona.com/u/pravata_dash)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/need-clarity-in-pmm-2-system-usage-requirements/24232/3 "2023-08-06T08:32:57Z")

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Thank you for providing the information, Kedar.

It seems that the blog post you shared is related to Pmm-1, but we are currently using the latest version, Pmm-2.  
I have found a recent blog post that contains more detailed information.  
You can find it at this link: [https://www.percona.com/blog/percona-monitoring-and-management-2-scaling-and-capacity-planning/](https://www.percona.com/blog/percona-monitoring-and-management-2-scaling-and-capacity-planning/).

 ![Screenshot 2023-08-06 at 2.02.31 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/percona1/original/2X/8/88b4900abae90e4a25a832771ab35aa5d5d412ca.png)  
Please inform me if the information in this latest blog post is sufficient for our consideration.

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**Author:** ![kedarpercona](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/kedarpercona/32/809_2.png) [@kedarpercona](https://forums.percona.com/u/kedarpercona)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/need-clarity-in-pmm-2-system-usage-requirements/24232/4 "2023-08-06T09:28:57Z")

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Hi @pravata_dash,

Right, that’s more recent blog and I can confirm you can base your estimation from the minimum requirements.

Thanks,  
K

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**Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/need-clarity-in-pmm-2-system-usage-requirements/24232/5 "2023-08-06T16:26:57Z")

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Thanks for the clarification.
