# Installation of PMM server and client at one server **URL:** \ **Category:** PMM 3.x\ **Created:** [October 13, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/installation-of-pmm-server-and-client-at-one-server/39544 "2025-10-13T14:50:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sarge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Sarge](https://forums.percona.com/u/Sarge)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 2:50pm UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/installation-of-pmm-server-and-client-at-one-server/39544/1 "2025-10-13T14:50:41Z")
Hello to Community ! Trying to meet with PMM 3 version I’ve met two questions 1. Is it possible to install PMM server and PMM client at the same (remote) server and get access using web ? 2. Is it possible to install PMM\_Server+PMM\_client on a server what run Apache ? Because when I tried to make a first installation of PMM server using docker - it says ”docker: Error response from daemon: failed to set up container networking: driver failed programming external connectivity on endpoint pmm-server (66a2e24045358731b3fcd05f50caf6f3974c21920d12e5f1f9271d1ad5020d30): failed to bind host port for 0.0.0.0:443:172.18.0.2:8443/tcp: address already in use” **But OF COURSE 443 port is busy and always be busy** because this port serving Apache SSL connections to the hosted sites. It means we have to have a SEPARATE SERVER just for PMM Server ? (if I understand right you way of installation) Why not use same simple web access idea like widely known PhpMyAdmin ? **XXX.IP.ADD.RESS/phpmyadmin/index.php** IMHO, “security” is not an argument because PhpMyAdmin allows an absolute control over MySQL databases - but millions of server administrators use the one. Would be obliged for a comment, Best regards, Serge ---
**Author:** ![matthewb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/forums.percona.com/matthewb/32/34_2.png) [@matthewb](https://forums.percona.com/u/matthewb)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/installation-of-pmm-server-and-client-at-one-server/39544/2 "2025-10-13T17:37:54Z")
> [@Sarge](#): > > failed to bind host port for 0.0.0.0:443 When you launch the docker container for PMM, you can specify an alternate port. 8444 is quite common. > [@Sarge](#): > > It means we have to have a SEPARATE SERVER just for PMM Server No, just switch to a different port as I mentioned above. > [@Sarge](#): > > Why not use same simple web access That would require our docker container know about, and understand your webserver config. Containers are _isolated_ runtimes, and do not (by design) interact with anything running on the host machine unless specifically mounted to the container. What you can do: in your apache config, add either a `` directive, or a `` to redirect traffic from `/pmm` to `ip.add.re.ss:8444/` > [@Sarge](#): > > IMHO, “security” is not an argument Security is absolutely an argument. Your phpMyAdmin does **not** require you give it full, unrestricted access. Also, your phpMyAdmin should not be accessible on the public internet. Follow standard security best-practices, and ensure your PMA is locked behind UN/PW, or even 2FA (there’s apache plugins for this), or SSL Client Authentication, or run your PMA on a different port that is not “widely known”. ---
**Author:** ![Sarge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Sarge](https://forums.percona.com/u/Sarge)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://forums.percona.com/t/installation-of-pmm-server-and-client-at-one-server/39544/3 "2025-10-14T14:38:59Z")
I considered your security notes and I accept you’re right. Your idea to save (instead of “on-fly start” using wget… | /bin/bash) and run installation script with port option sh pmm.sh -p 8444 has solved the problem, thanks a lot and the rest of installation was finished without any problem, including access to PMM, Best regards,